Good post Rob! thought provoking - I'm sure it will spark plenty of conversation (hopefully)

Pushing the limits on anything is possible. It's all down to reliability in the end isn't it. If the factory didn't factor in a margin for error (bad fuel, failing components, hard driving abuse etc.) we'd be sitting with plenty of broken motors and a warranty department everywhere in country loaded with claims.

Those figures are all flywheel above and with that also just figures pulled from some dyno's (the modified ones.) from different days, different elevations, SAE corrections - the works.

A chip coupled with an exhaust system and air intake mod netting almost 20kw is not possible unless the original system was so plugged it just wasn't funny. Don't forget we talking RSi here - or a Type R. These are built with the least amount of legal unrestriction and emmisions they can get away with from factory without being slapped with a fine.

Almost 40kw out of a stock Type R. No.

In closing - really, there is no free lunch. Figures are figures and those are unlikely on both platforms. The manufacturers aren't hiding a thing   it's a case of dyno wars and dyno queens battling it out. To quote a favourite movie of mine - what the eyes see and the ears hear the mind believes.

The clever people see through the BS.